Sunday, February 17, 2008

If it looks like a duck ...

There was a recent incident on the Kimmer Fascination Threads, in which it appeared we had a drive-by trolling. This alleged troll was of the "you ladies need to get a life" variety, and used a very familiar writing/spelling/grammar style. There was the usual spate of posts and responses until the admins stepped in and deleted most of it. Par for the course.

A fellow anti-kimkins blogger I respect, Prudentia, states that this person was not in fact a troll, and is in fact a potential "genuine and viable asset" in the cause of taking down Heidi Diaz and her dangerous starvation diet. Prudentia makes a very good point when she says that we should think twice before leaping to conclusions, and avoid speculation as to identity and motives. Another blogger I respect, Mariasol, also posted about this issue of internet trolls, and asks an important question -- how are we supposed to know if it's a troll or not without "feeding" it?

Full disclosure: I helped feed this "troll." It looked like a troll. It acted like a troll. It posted like a troll. It was in my opinion, reasonable to assume that this person was, in fact, a troll. If this person (MM) is not a troll, as Prudentia suggests, then I'm sorry. But I don't know whatever it is that Prudentia knows about this person, and nothing about MM thus far has led me to change my opinion. MM certainly seemed to know a lot about the whole Kimkins mess, including the lawsuit. If MM does, in fact, have information that would be helpful in taking down Kimmer, great. I'm sorry I called you Hulon and thought you were a troll. Contact John Tiedt and tell him whatever it is you know, anonymously if you wish.

But don't consider this to be an unequivocal apology, because knowing as much as you apparently do about this subject, MM, you should have known to do that in the first place, rather than going on a bizarrely-worded posting spree on LCF and various anti-Kimkins blogs. OBVIOUSLY that kind of behavior was going to be taken for trolling -- seriously, how did you think what you were saying and how you were saying it was going to be received? As the saying goes, when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. That said, in the future I will try to keep Prudentia's advice in mind and not react so quickly.

Elle

14 Kerfuffles:

2BIG said...

I'm with you 100% if sure didn't act like friend when MM arrived in FWK nor in the rest of its postings. When ask to identify self MM ignored those posts and went after ducks with info posted from blogs not the FWK topics so one could only surmize as you did MM had been following the blogs and the FWK topics and could have depositied that helpful for the lawsuit info at John's office sooner rather then in that bizzare manner.

Anonymous said...

Since I rarely attack new posters on any account, even proven trolls, I'm not apologising until the info MM delivers is unambiguous and helpful. When delivered as a drunken ominous type message, stuff I've heard most of my life from alcoholic relatives, and means as little, then rather than get my panties in a bunch, I don't give them the time of day.
My advice to MM? Sober up and speak plainly to those who need to know.

Anonymous said...

Your still cute!

Elle said...

And you still have trouble with grammar, Raisin Queen :)

Anonymous said...

your darn tootin.

Anonymous said...

Not bad for an old army cook huh?

Anonymous said...

And I dont drink, that was part of the persona. If you don't believe me. I will show up at your house and eat your puppy.

Anonymous said...

Remember, if your family ever gets harrassing calls. Just threaten to eat their dog. It is the most amazing way. BSG rules!!!

Anonymous said...

Yep, just like I said, sometimes the truth has to be hidden with a bodyguard of lies. I still chok it up to MM being a bored troll. Totally off his rocker at time. What field of biology are you in Elle?

Anonymous said...

Thats probably because the writer liked to read William Shire Honeybee. Remember the rise and Fall of the Third Reich? Written in 1948

Anonymous said...

As the original Anonymous on this blog, I disclaim any knowledge of the misspelled and cryptic messages that followed mine. Old army Cook - if you don't want to be treated like a troll, don't threaten my puppy! It must be a slow day for you to pop in here with more of your inane comments. And for what it's worth to which ever A. said it, it's William Shirer, not Shire.

Anonymous said...

Eh whatever, it is a good book though.lololololol

Anonymous said...

Didnt you guys hear bout 9 pages ago. MM is done and over with and in the bay for goodness sakes. Next time your in cali daisyrat you good looking smart scientist lady... yeah, stop in, ill buy ya dinner. ASK PRUD.....she knows I'm far far gone with a purpose. Peace Out all

Elle said...

I just gave you your own post, Raisin Queen. What's up with trying to find this blog via a Yahoo search?